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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Nov 26, 2007 8:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: some of the best advice to a newcomer that I've ever seen

" a lot of the kids today don't wanna know about the "sixties" their parents have tried thousands of times to ram down their ears, "

Sure, I can't blame them. It IS annoying. I had a communication/speech teacher ( it was a requirement ) in College that used to drone on and on about being " a child of the 60's" as she huffed off her inhaler and claimed to catch a buzz from it. She was basically a complete sterotype of a narcissistic child of the 60's in love with hearing herself talk.

I understand where you are coming from but I think you are wrong. As much as WE might think 65-67 Dead as Punk, anyone into say the Velvet Underground as a pre-punk thing aren't going to see it that way. They're going to hear the cheesy organ and overlong guitar solo's. I was addressing , as I think Joe was too, any newcomer that is expressing an interest in the band. To do so pretty much implies some sort of musical open mind imo. Now even if we go with your theory of a newcomer/kid/punk thing then I would think the music would be reaching more along the lines of what Rick Rubin was/is doing. What do you do when you run out of things to be punk about? Well the only place to go then is to explore the roots.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 26, 2007 10:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: some of the best advice to a newcomer that I've ever seen

well said, and of course some of the punky mid-'60s bands used cheezy organs as well - Farfisas and Vox Continentals were in every other garage bands set-up!

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=9961727


I really have met a number of "kids" (not 5 year olds, but 20 somethings on up) since the late '80s who really did draw the line at the 1st GD lp, they accepted that as part of the rockin' garage punk roots bands, and it took a long time and the right tapes to open their ears to anything else by the Dead,
I only speak from personal experience, realizing this can't be true for every one everywhere...

a lot of what I write in this vein is said with a bit of self-effacement, not to be taken as absolute final word, no siree!

I meself like a lot of later GD, as well as the raw primitive cheezy stuff from '65-'66!

It's all good!

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Nov 26, 2007 11:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: some of the best advice to a newcomer that I've ever seen

it's all good indeed!

Hey speaking or early punk, I saw something missing off that list you linked - surf music. I have this CD - revenge of the surf instrumentals. If that isn't pre-garage grunge punk I don't know what is. I was glad to see the Kinks make that list though.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Nov 26, 2007 11:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: some of the best advice to a newcomer that I've ever seen

hey johnnyonthespot, you could go wild dl'ing surf lps gratis from this blahg...

http://rideyourpony-twighlightzone.blogspot.com/search?q=surf

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Nov 26, 2007 11:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: some of the best advice to a newcomer that I've ever seen

" themes for bathing beauties and woodies"

LOL!